Just wanted to know what you guys think about it. I recently saw Oprah and Football Hall Of Famer Emmit Smith was a guest on her show. He was sent to trace back his family roots and what he found, blew me away. There was also a man on the show who was a professor,forget his name but he suggested to those who dont have access to the Deed books to look into Ancestry.com as a reliable source for your family history. The thing that really bothers me about these types of website is that we are paying for information that should be free to us. For me reparations is not important, knowing who I am as a Black man and where I come from is more valuable to me than anything in this world.

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I went into detail at FB in relation to this subject on Sole's wall under what you wrote. The local Library pays for a subscription to Ancestry...free to the public if you have a library card. I have found it to be useful in my case.
Example: I traced my lineage back to Africa with it: Moses Iverson is my Ancestor:

WOW! I have GOT to get me a library card!. The furthest I was able to go back was to my great grandfather Clarance Holden - Many Parish Louisiana. He was my grandmother's father on my moms side. This was found just on searching the net. Wow Mama Edie, you have me really amped about this again. I almost wanted to give up because I cant afford to pay for the info right now. Thank you so much for the information Mama Edie!!.
No problem C!!!! Of course you have to due the Library computer but that's okay. I appreciate that they provide access. The Mormons in Utah are the ones that have somehow hoarded that info and is now selling it. It should be free though. They will get their's in the end though.. :=(
Wow, I thought it was those damn Jews LOL. But yeah, I believe it was planned from the beginning to hide our history and charge us bookoo bucks to access it. I know about the Mormons and their roots in the KKK. They are the biggest homophobs of them all. Thats a whole other convo tho. I could just imagine the feeling you got when you saw those records Mama Edie! I am so exited about this. Im getting up early Friday and heading to the library!. So, was that the furthest you were able to go back? What did you learn about the Iverson family?
Yeah...Africa..to me is like finding Adam and Eve. I would love to access the Boat Records to find out more on teh tribe and whatnot...but I doubt I'd be able to go further back.

This was good enough for me ... I was knocked off my feet.
Yeah, I feel you there. That professor on Oprah said that everyone, regardless what race, has DNA markers that trace back to the mother land. Religion doesnt teach this but I knew from a young age where my people came from and it wasnt no damn Modern Day Iraq LOL. I will definitely get to the library then. Thank you SO much for the information Mama Edie! You the Woman!!
You're very welcome dear. Glad to help.

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The history of the Butlers/Raw Soul is dense, but for all of us music nerds, that's normal. It is not totally clear what year the Butlers actually formed but they released their first single in 1963 on Liberty Records. That single was "She Tried To Kiss Me" and another single followed on Guyden entitled "Lovable Girl." After the Guyden single the Butlers took a break not recording another record until the single "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" was released on the Phila label in 1966. The group also backed Charles Earland and Jean Wells on one Phila single ("I Know She Loves Me"). 


As you might be noticing, the Butlers were doing a fair amount of recording but not achieving much success. The group's recordings sold regionally but never had the promotion to make an impact on the national scene. After the single with Phila, the Butlers moved to the Fairmount label (part of the Cameo-Parkway family) and released a handful of singles, some being reissued singles of the past. The Butlers were with Fairmount for 1966-67 and then moved to Sassy Records. Sassy released the group's greatest single (in my opinion) "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" b/w "If That's What You Wanted." A copy of that 45 sold for just under $500 last summer on eBay. Even though that isn't that much in the world of record collecting--it's still a hefty sum. The Butlers released another single on Sassy ("She's Gone" b/w "Love Is Good") that appears to be even 
harder to come by then the "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" single.

 

The true history become a bit blurred here as the AMG biography states that the Butlers last record was released on C.R.S. in 1974 (". However, between 1971 and that single, Frankie Beverly formed a group called Raw Soul and released a number of singles. Some of the songs recorded by Beverly during this period are "While I'm Alone," "Open Up Your Heart," (both on the Gregor label) and "Color Blind." "Color Blind" was released by the Eldorado label and rerecorded by Maze. Beverly's big break came when Marvin Gaye asked Raw Soul to back him on a tour. Gaye helped Beverly/Raw Soul get a contract at Capitol. Beverly decided to take the group in a different direction, a name change occurred, and Maze was created. 

The above isn't the most complete history of Beverly but hopefully someone will know a way to get in touch with the man or his management because a comprehensive pre-Maze history needs to be done on Frankie Beverly (his real name is Howard, by the way). Below you'll find every Frankie Beverly (pre-Maze) song available to me right now ("Color Blind" will be up soon). 

If you have a song that is not included below, shoot it over to funkinsoulman (at) yahoo.com and it will go up in the next Frankie Beverly post (later this week--highlighting Maze). Also, if you have any more information please share your knowledge. The Butlers material has been comp-ed sporadically (usually imports) but the entire Maze catalog has been reissued and is available. 

Enjoy.  "She Kissed Me" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967) 
 
 "I Want To Feel I'm Wanted" (not sure which label or year) "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" (Phila, 1966) "Because Of My Heart" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967)
   
 "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" (Sassy, 1967)
   
 "If That's What You Wanted" (Sassy, 1967)
 



Frankie Beverly is one of those cats that has lasting power. He started in the music business doing a tour with doo wop group the Silhouettes and then formed his own group called the Blenders. The Blenders never recorded a single, Beverly wouldn't appear on wax until forming the Butlers a few years later. Along with Beverly, the Butlers included Jack "Sonny" Nicholson, Joe Collins, John Fitch, and Talmadge Conway.

Beverly would later enjoy great success fronting Maze and Conway would become a
well-known penning Double Exposure's
"Ten Percent" and the Intruders' "Memories Are Here To Stay." 
 While Maze is a phenomenal group, Beverly's work before that group will always stand out as his best (imo).

The Butlers produced tunes that most Northern Soul fans would kill for and Raw Soul gave the funksters something to pursue. If, by chance, you know of a way to get in touch with Frankie Beverly or his management, please drop me an e-mail. It would be absolutely great to do an interview with him about his pre-Maze work. He's still playing out, most recently doing a New Year's Eve show in Atlanta.
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