The story and the only two singles (with their B-sides) of Doo-Wop group the Continentals. The original Continentals were formed in the winter of 1955, when Buddy Payne, Herman Montgomery, James Gripper and James Vincent Cooper asked Danny Hicks. The Continentals practiced seven days a week, without fail. They may have known how to sing and they may have appreciated the need to practice, but they never got the message that they should have had a manager. They handled almost all of their infrequent bookings themselves and that became a problem that would haunt them for their entire career. Danny had friends and family in Harlem, so he was often in the neighborhood. In the Spring of 1956, an acquaintance told him to look up Bobby Robinson in his record shop on 125th Street. He did, and told Robinson about his group and how they were looking for a record deal. He must have sold the group well, because Robinson arranged an audition at the Lenox Avenue studio of Roseta LeNoire (who would later turn up on the TV show 'Family Matters'). Robinson gave them a contract and they assumed he'd take on a lot more responsibility than he did. They thought Bobby Robinson was going to be their manager, but that turned into a real disappointment. He always promised things, but they never seemed to happen. This is why, even with a record deal, the Continentals never made that many appearances. Around May 1956 Buddy Payne impulsively quit the group and joined the Marines. Their first thought was to not replace him, but all their arrangements were for five voices, so they had to get someone. They initially tried Buddy's younger brother, Ronnie, who was just getting out of Junior High School. He knew all the arrangements and could sing, but his parents felt he was too young, so that killed that. Fortunately, Danny was still friendly with John 'Peanut' Jones, his old buddy from the Romancers. Peanut agreed to join the Continentals and it was off to do some serious practicing. Finally. June 29, 1956. The big day. While they were practicing at Manhattan's Beltone studios, in walked Earl Lewis and the Channels. The two groups had met on a show at St. Augustin's Church in Brooklyn and now the Continentals and the Channels were each ready for their first session. According to Earl Lewis, “'Dear Lord' just knocked me out.” Earl admits that listening to Danny (the high tenor on the tune) was what prompted him to pump up his falsetto part in 'The Closer You Are.' With Bobby Robinson and his brother Danny supervising the session, the Continentals stepped up to the mike and laid down 'Dear Lord' (led by Herman, with Danny doing the high tenor echo) and 'Fine, Fine Frame' (led by Herman). The tune had originally been called 'Fine Brown Frame,' butBobby Robinson had reminded them that Nellie Lutcher had had a 1948 hit with a song of that name. While there's no law against having two songs with the same name, Robinson didn't want any confusion. So the guys had changed it to “Fine, Fine Frame”.

The studio band consisted of saxman King Curtis (who wrote out the charts for them), guitarist Mickey Baker, drummer Philly Joe Jones, pianist Panama Lewis, and a bassist whom no one can remember. Although it took 3 to 3 1/2 hours, there were only three takes of 'Dear Lord' and two of 'Fine, Fine Frame.' When their time was up, they stayed around to hear the Channels record 'The Closer You Are' and 'Now You Know.' While Earl Lewis gives credit to the Continentals for his group's sound, Bobby Robinson was more excited about the potential of the Channels. Thus, he released 'The Closer You Are' in August, while taking his time with 'Dear Lord.' Both would be issued on Robinson's new Whirlin' Disc label. The guys waited and waited for Robinson to release the record, which he finally did in October 1956. On November 13, 1956, the Continentals had their second Whirlin' Disc session, at which they did two more home-grown tunes: 'Picture Of Love' (led by Herman) and 'Soft And Sweet' (with Danny out in front). The songs were done in two takes each. Mickey Baker, Panama Lewis, and Philly Joe Jones returned, augmented by saxman Sam 'The Man' Taylor, and bassist Ray Brown. 'Picture Of Love' and 'Soft And Sweet' were released in February 1957. In spite of good reviews and a great reputation among their peers, the Continentals were barely hanging on. Things really started to fall apart in late 1957, when James Gripper left to join the Air Force. His replacement was another singer from Danny's old Romancers group, baritone Willie Keels. However, they were barely working at all. "We thought Bobby Robinson was our manager, but nothing happened," says Danny. By that time, they were completely disgusted with Robinson, who clearly wasn't about to book another Continentals session. The only positive thing that you can say about the whole experience is that they received around $57 apiece as royalties for 'Dear Lord.'

And then, the final blow. In early 1959, Vinny Cooper had a heart attack and died. “He was our rock,” says Danny, “our musical director.” This was the one tragedy the Continentals couldn't overcome.
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I brought this over from my blog...enjoy.
I'm glad. If you enjoyed it...then I'm happy. You lived inThe Bronx...wow.

Yes, they totally had that doowop harmony going...on. It reminds me so much of
those unsung doowop heroes of my day. They would sound just like this right outside
of my window. They would congregate and sing under the moonlight. I loved it.

They always had some cheap wine and their harmony. Then..they would bid one another
adieu (and a don't)..and dissipate into the night. What memories.

Thank you dear....♥

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The history of the Butlers/Raw Soul is dense, but for all of us music nerds, that's normal. It is not totally clear what year the Butlers actually formed but they released their first single in 1963 on Liberty Records. That single was "She Tried To Kiss Me" and another single followed on Guyden entitled "Lovable Girl." After the Guyden single the Butlers took a break not recording another record until the single "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" was released on the Phila label in 1966. The group also backed Charles Earland and Jean Wells on one Phila single ("I Know She Loves Me"). 


As you might be noticing, the Butlers were doing a fair amount of recording but not achieving much success. The group's recordings sold regionally but never had the promotion to make an impact on the national scene. After the single with Phila, the Butlers moved to the Fairmount label (part of the Cameo-Parkway family) and released a handful of singles, some being reissued singles of the past. The Butlers were with Fairmount for 1966-67 and then moved to Sassy Records. Sassy released the group's greatest single (in my opinion) "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" b/w "If That's What You Wanted." A copy of that 45 sold for just under $500 last summer on eBay. Even though that isn't that much in the world of record collecting--it's still a hefty sum. The Butlers released another single on Sassy ("She's Gone" b/w "Love Is Good") that appears to be even 
harder to come by then the "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" single.

 

The true history become a bit blurred here as the AMG biography states that the Butlers last record was released on C.R.S. in 1974 (". However, between 1971 and that single, Frankie Beverly formed a group called Raw Soul and released a number of singles. Some of the songs recorded by Beverly during this period are "While I'm Alone," "Open Up Your Heart," (both on the Gregor label) and "Color Blind." "Color Blind" was released by the Eldorado label and rerecorded by Maze. Beverly's big break came when Marvin Gaye asked Raw Soul to back him on a tour. Gaye helped Beverly/Raw Soul get a contract at Capitol. Beverly decided to take the group in a different direction, a name change occurred, and Maze was created. 

The above isn't the most complete history of Beverly but hopefully someone will know a way to get in touch with the man or his management because a comprehensive pre-Maze history needs to be done on Frankie Beverly (his real name is Howard, by the way). Below you'll find every Frankie Beverly (pre-Maze) song available to me right now ("Color Blind" will be up soon). 

If you have a song that is not included below, shoot it over to funkinsoulman (at) yahoo.com and it will go up in the next Frankie Beverly post (later this week--highlighting Maze). Also, if you have any more information please share your knowledge. The Butlers material has been comp-ed sporadically (usually imports) but the entire Maze catalog has been reissued and is available. 

Enjoy.  "She Kissed Me" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967) 
 
 "I Want To Feel I'm Wanted" (not sure which label or year) "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" (Phila, 1966) "Because Of My Heart" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967)
   
 "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" (Sassy, 1967)
   
 "If That's What You Wanted" (Sassy, 1967)
 



Frankie Beverly is one of those cats that has lasting power. He started in the music business doing a tour with doo wop group the Silhouettes and then formed his own group called the Blenders. The Blenders never recorded a single, Beverly wouldn't appear on wax until forming the Butlers a few years later. Along with Beverly, the Butlers included Jack "Sonny" Nicholson, Joe Collins, John Fitch, and Talmadge Conway.

Beverly would later enjoy great success fronting Maze and Conway would become a
well-known penning Double Exposure's
"Ten Percent" and the Intruders' "Memories Are Here To Stay." 
 While Maze is a phenomenal group, Beverly's work before that group will always stand out as his best (imo).
The Butlers produced tunes that most Northern Soul fans would kill for and Raw Soul gave the funksters something to pursue. The Butlers recorded their first single in 1960 titled "Loveable Girl". Left to right John Fitch, T Conway, Frankie Beverly, Sonny Nicholson and Joe Collins. 

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