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Rest In Peace ♫ CAT ♫ aka Kat & The Gang

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This is so my jam...Pleasure - Glide (1979)

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A beautiful song inspired by the loss of a loved one.

Posted on March 18, 2018 at 5:53pm 7 Comments

I really love this song

Chocolate Milk - Say Won'Tcha (1979)

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I wish I knew more about this group. They come from New Orleans. The song I used to hear by them when I was a kid was Girl Callin'.

 



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At 9:47am on September 19, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

As for the autoplay function, I was referring to the default player, which by the way doesn't show on chrome or android due to flash being obliterated. I added the player you hear as a work-around which works across browsers. On my laptop, your default player pops on as autoplay but mine has to be clicked not once...but twice to play. I can't figure out why. An anomaly I guess.

At 3:03pm on September 18, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

There's no charge for the Legacy Version at the library. They have a contract with Ancestry. But you have to go there to do the research.

At 8:17am on September 17, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…
That is so weird. I notice that your playlist plays automatically as well but no other on my pages will. They have to be manually started. Seems like a browser thing. Anyway, here's the response again just in case:

"At 5:43am on August 31, 2018, Edie2k2 said… Hey Honey! What a pleasant surprise. It's very unfortunate the way Ancestry . com has insidiously gobbled up what should be free access to records. I am personally incensed by their actions and don't support them one iota. Each city has free access to the Legacy Version of Ancestry at the public library but you have to go there to get into it. I was able to go a little further back into my family records that way. Family Search . com is free but they too, have been contaminated by Ancestry. To make matters worse, once you subscribe it's difficult to get free of them charging you. If you do decide to go that route however, do it through Paypal. They provide an extra layer of protection. Also, try HeritageQuest Online... through the Library. You need a library card to access it. I was angry to see the Ancestry mob has now contaminated them too though. Try Freedman's Records too but I don't know much about them.

Hope that helps...

Mama"

At 8:08am on September 17, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

Hey Baby! Yes I did, on August 31 ... I'm looking at it. Can you describe what you're seeing in your comment section? That concerns me.

At 5:43am on August 31, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

Hey Honey! What a pleasant surprise. It's very unfortunate the way Ancestry . com has insidiously gobbled up what should be free access to records. I am personally incensed by their actions and don't support them one iota. Each city has free access to the Legacy Version of Ancestry at the public library but you have to go there to get into it. I was able to go a little further back into my family records that way. Family Search . com is free but they too, have been contaminated by Ancestry. To make matters worse, once you subscribe it's difficult to get free of them charging you.

If you do decide to go that route however, do it through Paypal. They provide an extra layer of protection. Also, try HeritageQuest Online... through the Library. You need a library card to access it. I was angry to see the Ancestry mob has now contaminated them too though. Try Freedman's Records too but I don't know much about them.

Hope that helps...

Mama

At 6:28pm on March 18, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

That's about par for the course. When I was little, there was a show called Amos n Andy that came on TV. I loved it. I was 5. It was so popular among black folks and doing very well in the ratings. Then came the back in the day 'so-called' keepers of what's proper in liking anything black. They called black folks coons then too---the actors AND the audience that cheered the show on. Sooooo, it got pulled. Bottom-line? Jealousy. Period. I researched those Hoteps. What a scream. People kill me on those imaginary judgment seats.

At 4:44am on March 18, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

Hahahaha!
I love it. My son took me last week. I liked it too, especially the clothes. All that other stuff doesn't matter in the long run. Folks be hatin'. But when push comes to shove, who cares. Hotep fools? Bwahahahahaha! You kill me.

(Me and Dena in Oakland visiting Grandfather-1956)

At 3:29pm on February 23, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

Not yet ... I'm looking forward to seeing it though. :0

At 6:45pm on February 19, 2018, Edie Antoinette said…

So glad to hear from you dear. I'm always thinking about you and hoping all is well. Love you. ♥

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Hey Honey! Thinking about you!

 
 
 

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Spotlight | Maze

  1. play Maze — 03 Feel That You're Feelin'
  2. play Maze — 04 Somebody Else's Arms
  3. play Maze — 04 Southern Girl
  4. play Maze — Can't Get Over You
  5. play Maze — Golden Time Of Day
  6. play Norman Brown — Night Drive
  7. play Norman Brown — Feeling
  8. play Norman Brown — Still
  9. play Miles Davis — miles 1
  10. play miles 2
  11. play miles 3
  12. play miles 4
  13. play miles 5
  14. play Marvin Gaye — I Met A Little Girl
  15. play Santana — 01 Singing Winds, Crying Beasts
  16. play Santana — 02 Black Magic Woman-Gypsy Queen
  17. play Mongo — 02. Afro Blue



The history of the Butlers/Raw Soul is dense, but for all of us music nerds, that's normal. It is not totally clear what year the Butlers actually formed but they released their first single in 1963 on Liberty Records. That single was "She Tried To Kiss Me" and another single followed on Guyden entitled "Lovable Girl." After the Guyden single the Butlers took a break not recording another record until the single "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" was released on the Phila label in 1966. The group also backed Charles Earland and Jean Wells on one Phila single ("I Know She Loves Me"). 


As you might be noticing, the Butlers were doing a fair amount of recording but not achieving much success. The group's recordings sold regionally but never had the promotion to make an impact on the national scene. After the single with Phila, the Butlers moved to the Fairmount label (part of the Cameo-Parkway family) and released a handful of singles, some being reissued singles of the past. The Butlers were with Fairmount for 1966-67 and then moved to Sassy Records. Sassy released the group's greatest single (in my opinion) "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" b/w "If That's What You Wanted." A copy of that 45 sold for just under $500 last summer on eBay. Even though that isn't that much in the world of record collecting--it's still a hefty sum. The Butlers released another single on Sassy ("She's Gone" b/w "Love Is Good") that appears to be even 
harder to come by then the "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" single.

 

The true history become a bit blurred here as the AMG biography states that the Butlers last record was released on C.R.S. in 1974 (". However, between 1971 and that single, Frankie Beverly formed a group called Raw Soul and released a number of singles. Some of the songs recorded by Beverly during this period are "While I'm Alone," "Open Up Your Heart," (both on the Gregor label) and "Color Blind." "Color Blind" was released by the Eldorado label and rerecorded by Maze. Beverly's big break came when Marvin Gaye asked Raw Soul to back him on a tour. Gaye helped Beverly/Raw Soul get a contract at Capitol. Beverly decided to take the group in a different direction, a name change occurred, and Maze was created. 

The above isn't the most complete history of Beverly but hopefully someone will know a way to get in touch with the man or his management because a comprehensive pre-Maze history needs to be done on Frankie Beverly (his real name is Howard, by the way). Below you'll find every Frankie Beverly (pre-Maze) song available to me right now ("Color Blind" will be up soon). 

If you have a song that is not included below, shoot it over to funkinsoulman (at) yahoo.com and it will go up in the next Frankie Beverly post (later this week--highlighting Maze). Also, if you have any more information please share your knowledge. The Butlers material has been comp-ed sporadically (usually imports) but the entire Maze catalog has been reissued and is available. 

Enjoy.  "She Kissed Me" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967) 
 
 "I Want To Feel I'm Wanted" (not sure which label or year) "Laugh, Laugh, Laugh" (Phila, 1966) "Because Of My Heart" (Fairmount, 1966 or 1967)
   
 "Love (Your Pain Goes Deep)" (Sassy, 1967)
   
 "If That's What You Wanted" (Sassy, 1967)
 



Frankie Beverly is one of those cats that has lasting power. He started in the music business doing a tour with doo wop group the Silhouettes and then formed his own group called the Blenders. The Blenders never recorded a single, Beverly wouldn't appear on wax until forming the Butlers a few years later. Along with Beverly, the Butlers included Jack "Sonny" Nicholson, Joe Collins, John Fitch, and Talmadge Conway.

Beverly would later enjoy great success fronting Maze and Conway would become a
well-known penning Double Exposure's
"Ten Percent" and the Intruders' "Memories Are Here To Stay." 
 While Maze is a phenomenal group, Beverly's work before that group will always stand out as his best (imo).

The Butlers produced tunes that most Northern Soul fans would kill for and Raw Soul gave the funksters something to pursue. If, by chance, you know of a way to get in touch with Frankie Beverly or his management, please drop me an e-mail. It would be absolutely great to do an interview with him about his pre-Maze work. He's still playing out, most recently doing a New Year's Eve show in Atlanta.
:: Funkinsoulman ::

Sounds of Maze

  1. play Maze — 03 Feel That You're Feelin'
  2. play Maze — 04 Somebody Else's Arms
  3. play Maze — 04 Southern Girl
  4. play Maze — Can't Get Over You
  5. play Maze — Golden Time Of Day
  6. play Norman Brown — Night Drive
  7. play Norman Brown — Feeling
  8. play Norman Brown — Still
  9. play Miles Davis — miles 1
  10. play miles 2
  11. play miles 3
  12. play miles 4
  13. play miles 5
  14. play Marvin Gaye — I Met A Little Girl
  15. play Santana — 01 Singing Winds, Crying Beasts
  16. play Santana — 02 Black Magic Woman-Gypsy Queen
  17. play Mongo — 02. Afro Blue

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